Linzi on Mono Threads

Let’s hear Trish, Nicole and Linzi Patterson talk about threads!

What are threads? Matrix Mono Threads are collagen stimulating threads that can pretty much be used all over the face, neck, and body. 

New episode out now! Tune in to the Aesthetics Uncensored Podcast as Trish chats with Linzi from Envogue about Threads. We get to find out where, when and how Mono Threads are being used. 

Linzi is a business development manager in the aesthetic industry. She has worked in the health and beauty industry for over 17 years, globally! She only works with devices or products that are evidence-based and 100% efficacy.

Follow her on instagram @scottie_queenof

 

Transcription- Linzi on Mono Threads

Trish

Hello, listeners. It’s Trish here again from the Aesthetics Uncensored Podcast. And today we are going to be talking about threads because threads are like a real rage at the moment. And I remember being introduced to them years ago, but today, I’ll be joined by Linzi Patterson, who is a business development manager in the aesthetic industry. And she is all about threads. So she’s gonna tell us all this stuff about them. So welcome, Linzi!

Linzi

Hi, Trish. How are you? 

Trish

Good. How are you? 

Linzi
I’m great. Well as good as we can before under the circumstances.

Trish

Which is okay and we’ll just gonna make the most fun that we got the main hey,and we got it. We got to make the most of it. 

Linzi

So this is the perfect time to jump on here. And I’m so excited to be here with you because I’ve been to The Pink Room, where you do your filming and recording. A little bit surreal now that I’m actually like, I get to talk in it. Yeah, so thank you for having me.

Trish

Thank you for being here.

Linzi

Yeah, I’m we’re all about the Matrix PDO mono threads, which are collagen stimulating threads. Um, you’ve actually tried them yourself. In your neck and decolletage area belief.

Trish 

Yes. And that’s what is correct, not my decolletage because I don’t need it there. But I definitely got it done just under my jaw line, like my neck. Yeah, it’s a real issue for me.

I have thought about what you’re gonna look kind of like, I’m not speaking to a doctor, I’m actually speaking to someone who’s like me, who is someone who knows all about the product, because it’s what you specialise in. But you’re not going to give me too much doctor talk, which is really good. Because some, it’s a great way to translate that doctor talking to, so I’m excited about that. Because I might even understand what you’re saying, which is really exciting. So, first of all, where do threads even come from? Because like, they’ve only been around for a relatively short time, have they?

Linzi

Well, in Australia, they’ve been around for a short time. So probably in the last eight years more commonly. So I’d say in the last three or four years. However, threads have been around for the last 30 plus years globally. So they just landed in Australian waters like say in the last decade and it became very popular. And that’s due to the aesthetic outcome. So you had your chin area we call it the double chin or the little turkey giblet. So the visit that you can grab underneath your jaw line, and it can feel loose and it can feel a little bit creepy. And you can try all over the face, the neck, the body. And what the threads do is they stimulate collagen. So obviously as you mature and you get older your collagen levels deplete so you start to look to leave college and it happens to everybody, even the best of us.

Trish

Even those that are clean living healthy people don’t matter.

Linzi  

Yes, exactly right. Yeah. Even if you are some safe you know, you were sung hot you’ve got your SPF on every day. You follow all these slip, slop slap rules. It’s gonna happen to everyone. It’s inevitable, unfortunately, sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Yeah, there’s, there’s different things that are out there that you can have done. And the reason I love threads so much is it’s an economic basis, it’s non surgical. We are inserting a medical suture into the skin and we do that with a little fine fine needle. And you can insert as many or as little as you need. And that would be determined by let’s say a practitioner. So either a doctor or a registered nurse. You’d have a consultation with them and they determine a program for you to determine how many you need. It doesn’t take that long. It can take anywhere between let’s say, 5 minutes to 30 minutes depending on how many you need. And what part of the face, neck or body you’re having treated. The results are not instant. Okay, yeah, the results will happen anywhere between six to eight weeks, in up to three months, so we’re working on stimulating collagen naturally in your body. So you’ve got these little cells inside your body called fibroblasts. These little sutures, is this model suture, this metric model thread stimulates your, your little cells in your body to produce more collagen. So it’s a natural process that your body goes through. So that does take time. So it’s not instant. So you get a little bit of bruising, a little bit swelling is possible as well. And you can be determined through your consultation, how much bruising or swelling.

Trish 

Yeah, and because what could like, I had some sort of threads down the years ago, and they were long threads. And it did kind of actually freak me out. And then I always thought that was just straight. And then I started saying all these pictures of just those little short threads, and then they’ll put into people like little fans all around different parts of the body. I have to say they make great Instagram pictures. They just look so funky.

Linzi

I’m pretty sure everybody or most people who are listening, have seen them on Instagram or some sort of social media avenue there. Yeah, they’re very eye catchy on social media.

Trish

I thought they were because they look so eye-catching I thought, Oh yeah, this is like a bit of a gimmick. But having experienced it myself. I was actually really quite surprised by the result. Now I had this in the middle of June and we are now at the beginning of August, and I reckon about two weeks. So because it’s like anything you get something done. You kind of forget about it a little bit. And then you’re looking at yourself in the mirror. And I’m like, Oh my god, like my little bit of, I don’t have a double chin thank God. I’ve got a double of everything. No double chin yet. But I do have that floppy little bit under my skin and I get asked about that a lot. Because I do have a lot of patients that have lost weight and then don’t know what to do. When I had done, I had another treatment as well, which caused me to spot so that’s kind of forgotten that I had the threads done. And then about three days later, I started to puff up like my neck was really packed up. Oh, that’s right, it’s done. And then, and then honestly, I just kind of forgot about it, then the swelling went away. And then I just looked at myself in the mirror one day because I made it a habit of kind of having touching all my little wobbly bits and just and I was like, Oh my God, this little wobble under my neck because I am forever touching that little turkey giblet that I always touch it. So it’s not wobbling as much. I’m just like, this is just kind of smooth now. So that’s why I’m like, Oh my god, these are actually really good. Because I’ve never been a great lover of threads because of that experience that I had. But these were the bomb.

Linzi

Yeah, you can obviously get different types of threads. Like you mentioned you’ve had different threads in the past. And so they fall under two different categories, you can get threads that will lift the skin that will lift the tissue, and they will have an instant effect. Do you instantly be able to see the lift in your face ……. these ones we’re talking about today. They’re smooth, it’s almost like they’re like a strand of hair smooth is trying to hear and they come in different lengths. as well. They’re relatively comfortable. I’d say out of 10 I’ve had them all over my face, neck and body everywhere I’d say there but to attend. I did have some numbing cream and applied some topical numbing cream before the procedure was done. Um, some people find them a little bit more spicy or a little bit like wasabi. They’re relatively comfortable. It’s a quick procedure. The bruising, it’s down to maybe the individual person or it could be the operator as well. or different things like you know what you do after the procedure can affect this too. So if you follow your aftercare procedure that your practitioner gives you and you listen to the advice like one you can kind of catch yourself in the mirror and you think, oh, who’s that? You do see a tear here. For me, it was about six to eight weeks after. That’s when I started to see a big difference. And then it progressively over the weeks got better. 

Trish

For me it was that for I reckon and so these are called Matrix PDO threads, aren’t they?

Linzi

We refer to them as Mono threads. So Matrix Mono threads mano being monofilament. It’s one filament that you’re applying at a time for mono means one.

Trish

Okay, and what’s the PDO stands for?

Linzi

PDO? Are you ready? Yeah, it’s done for polydioxanone, which is polydiox, is a polymer. It’s actual material that these threads are made of. So you get different types of threads that are made of different materials. But the ones that you’re referring to, the ones that you’ve had, the ones that I’ve had, the ones that are the most common, are polydioxanone. So your PDO threads, one of the reasons they are so popular is because they’ve been around for over 30 years, they’re the same suture material as you would have. Let’s say you’re having surgery, and then they use a suture, it’s the same material as that. And just a little bit different length in different thickness as well.

Trish

Okay, because when I had them done, like, it just seemed like someone would be like that she just put the needles in. And then she kind of just went and what I thought she’d just pull the needles out. But what actually happened is, there’s no needle, of course, I mean, there is a needle Well, I don’t know that I guess, because it’s like, it kind of stays in there, isn’t it?

Linzi

Yeah, so these little, these little sutures, these little polydiox and on PDO threads, little monofilament is attached to a needle foot, it’s wrapped around a little tiny, tiny, tiny, thin needle, almost like an acupuncture needle. And what we do to your little turkey giblet is we applied a topical numbing cream, we left it for a little bit, we remove the numbing cream, and then we inserted the threads into the area. So these threads or rocks around the needle for the needle went into your skin, and then we pulled it out. So when we pulled the needle out, what was actually left behind was that little Matrix Monol thread, for a little matrix mono thread is left behind in your skin. So I think we probably put about 30 or 40 in your chin-neck area. So when you left, you were left to roll these little sutures in your chin and then your body had already started to do the work and then in the magic, without you knowing it. So I don’t know if you know that. We removed the Beatles, but what we did was leave these little sutures in your face. 

Trish

I didn’t know that until I read it before we started the podcast. I was like I’m thinking okay, so you just put a you know, put a hole in my face, and then it comes out and kind of builds up. I know that sounds really bad. It may not even know that. 

Linzi

I love that you have the faith and the trust in us. 

Trish 

Just kind of stays in there and does stay all the time?

Linzi

Yeah, it looks in there, that flop, it floats, it stays in its position. It’s locked in the skin. Yeah, um, and then your body does the rest of the work in about six to eight months time. And there’s numerous studies to back this up. The threads will just dissolve and you’re left with little fine strands of collagen. So they create this little matrix in your skin. So this matrix of new collagen which can help with any loose, creaky any sagging skin, any aging skin. Do you get those smile lines? When you give a nice big cheesy smile, and it looks like a bloody accordion? They’re great for them. Those are difficult areas to treat with other procedures that are out there. So these threads are popular and they’re used time and time and time again, because they’re safe for the patient, which is the most important thing there is easy for the petitioner to use as well. It’s a short procedure. It doesn’t take that long. You just get what you’re often done with within about five minutes and what walks away. Follow your aftercare advice that your particular practitioner gives you. 

Trish

Because the longest time was just waiting for the crane to just have time to look around.

Linzi

Yeah, yeah, it can take some time, depending on what obviously type of topical numbing cream and that’s something that your petitioner will advise you on. They all work in different ways, different strengths, different sentences. 

Trish  

How can you like how long they last for a sec, so they take between around six weeks for you to start, and then they will last for how long?

Linzi 

The physical threads will be present in your body for about six to eight months. And then after that time, your body will dissolve the thread you metabolize it, get rid of it from your body, and what you’ll be left with is these little strands of collagen. So those strands of collagen, they shoot, they should last I’d say, up to 12 months, the results should last a minimum of 12 months. However, we’ve got to take different lifestyle factors into that and be fit, be healthy, and enjoy the right types of food, enjoy the right fruit and vegetables, the right types of proteins, etc. to have a balanced diet. 

Trish

Lots in the water. Yeah. 

Linzi

I thought you were gonna say wine. There are lots of water

Trish

Wine in between your water.

Linzi

Yeah, yes. So obviously, if everything in complete balance is gonna determine the results or high amounts of stress, or high amounts of sun exposure is gonna have an effect on that collagen that you’ve told your body to produce. So we still got to be sun smart. We still have to eat healthily and have a balanced diet. Yeah. And enjoy the good things in moderation. 

Trish

Yeah, got to hear that today. But it’s locked in. Yeah, Let’s run through like the places that you can have threads done. Like I think, what place on our body? Because I know that like I’ve seen the most infested bellas or someone having them done on it. But I need to see someone having a dunk for this for stretch marks. Is that a thing? Or is it just to be on the stretch mark? 

Linzi

It depends. Stretch marks, it could be associated with loose skin or crepey skin. The old stretch marks are different, different stages, the different reasons so we’ve got to look into what’s causing them and where they’ve come from. What you’ve done in the past or full, obviously history has to be looked into. But yeah, I’ve seen people treat stretch marks before and what they were actually treating is the loose skin. So let’s say for example around the belly button post baby’s butt is one of the best areas especially if you’re not a surgical candidate. If you’re not a surgical candidate and you small fit you healthy, you don’t want to go under the knife, and you’ve just got that little bit of loose crepey skin you’re looking for, short procedure, you’ve got kids, you can’t afford to take time off of work or looking at or mom duties wherever it may be in you’re looking for something that’s relatively affordable, it’s a comfortable treatment, it’s a safe treatment. The pros outweigh the cons. You can absolutely have it done around the abdomen area. That’s one of the most popular areas I’d say. Yeah, it does. It doesn’t take that long. You could also like you mentioned having it done on you both on your knees, your knees are another popular area.

Trish

Yeah, especially as you get older and you get some of those wrinkles and that’s because you’re only five years old, hun.

Linzi  

Yeah, elbows are like all these little bits that really piss people off and really annoy people. And you know, they don’t want to have surgery or they’re not suitable for surgery or it’s kind of like there’s a gap missing for these people to be treating something that’s a pain point that really upsets them. Or it could be you know, genetics always look at my neck. Thank God my mom doesn’t know what a podcast is. Just have an email that Kathy there she has a telephone and that’s it. I just look at my neck and I think oh my gosh, my mom, my mom, I just keep seeing her neck. Genetics, we all turn into her parents, don’t we?

Trish

Oh, absolutely. 

Linzi

Genetic. It could be something like that. You want to use it as a little bit of preventative maintenance rather than cure? A little bit. A little bit of quality collagen never hurt anyone. 

Trish  

Exactly. And so we can do the butt, we can do the tummy. What about the arms? Like I do where I’m talking about? Like, around like, it doesn’t actually bother me but I’ve had ladies say like around the elbow. So basically anywhere your skin is crepey. 

Linzi

Yeah. But when you get those, give it again like a cheesy smile. And this is something that annoys a lot of people. I hear this time and time again and you get those crow’s feet.

Trish  

No, I know exactly what you sound.

Linzi

I mean some Italian jeans, that’s what I’m talking about.

Trish

Definitely got those. It’s like an over-smile.

Linzi

And then the makeup got stuck in it and whatever else. But then even when you stop bloody smiling is still there. Right? Both little those little lines that you know we tend to stare at every morning when we’re getting ready. They’re phenomenal. It’s treating those lines. Like there’s lots of other modalities it can help with wrinkles, and aging skin a bit specifically. They’re really good for those areas or draw those like big lines on the forehead. It just reminds me of the angry headmasters’ school. 

Trish

Yeah. So would that work for someone who’s got like I’m because I’ve actually have a girlfriend. She’s always always said to me, I need to have botox in my forehead. But she’s actually got really deep like to deep frown lines that she’s had for so would that be perfect for something like that? Because it looks good on me and I feel it’s gonna work because she’s been sick, something that does not work and botox is not really what she’s after. But could this be a solution for her?

Linzi

Because we actually part of my job is to distribute and educate on dermal filler as well and having dermal filler in the area that you’re referring to in the the middle of the forehead is a bit of a no go it can be a little bit of a dangerous area and there’s very few practitioners in Australia who will will treat that area with dermal filler to kind of lift out that deep line. So what we found over the last two to three years, a lot of people have been put in the Matrix Mono threads in those areas. Those little like spiral lines or deep lines or the little bunny lines that you get when you scrunch up your nose again when you smile or you’re trying or you laugh or any sort of animation there there are fantastic roles little areas so those like they look like little you know legs to live in on your on your forehead and they can come down into the you know the bridge of your nose.

Trish

Yeah, they can see my face with what I’m doing now with my phone. 

Linzi

Yeah, um don’t do it because there are more wrinkles. Not another area that great for is your decolletage so when you your chest area. So you wake up in the morning and you’ve had a nice sleep on your side and you get those lines and your cleavage that just don’t seem to go away or keep because some damage as well is a big cause of aging naturally. It’s a stressed area but beautiful results in that area. It’s cheap you can pretty much treat anywhere from your big toe yeah nice place but we place that we wouldn’t tend to do them would be on your eyelid so you could have it you know on you know on and around maybe your eyebrows for those little fine lines that you again they come from smiling sun damage just natural aging process genetics – he probably wouldn’t do on your eyelids.

Trish

Yeah, yeah. Cuz what the place that I think is the most dramatic because, of course I’m looking at the for now. As you can see me, I am looking at the spectacular result that I think is achieved. And I don’t know if I’ve got this right, because I always get mixed up with but it’s the nasolabial? I get the vagina and the face mixed up.

Linzi

Nasolabial a little bit further down your nasolabial fold. 

Trish

Yeah. Okay, great. Got that.

Linzi

Don’t ask me how to pronounce it. 

Trish

And I reckon that’s the first step. Well, for me, the first sign of that was when I looked at my face, not what I needed to do. That was the first thing I noticed that I want to get threads and I’m looking at the results here and that blew me away.

Linzi

Like, yeah, that’s a beautiful area to treat. We’ve had some Australia wide, we’ve had the most like mind blown phenomenal results in that area. I think it’s an area that, again, it can be challenging to treat, you could if you were using, let’s say a dermal filler to fill that area, you could overfill the area. And in some cases, it may look unnatural. So it’s definitely been a goal for practitioners to use the Matrix Mono threads on their patients’ results. It’s really not, it’s definitely because the results we get are in another area. I don’t know if you’ve come across these photographs yet, but you will, is the under eye.

Trish

That was also gonna ask you that. Because that’s like the dark on the eyes, this is a problem for a lot of people. Like, everyone’s always, what can I do? What can I do? I’m looking at your website now. And there’s four in particular that the under eye areas are like whoa, yeah, this girl’s got full blown black under eyes, I believe just yet just two big stripes. And then but how long would that result take, like is that I can see before and after would that be like, six weeks after or it’s not straight after of course is it?

Linzi

Straight after you tend to see a little bit, redness, swelling, and in some cases, you can see you know, a little bit where the needle in the threads has been inside. So the pictures mostly are of the results. So results come in around six to eight weeks, or typically the photos that you will see on the internet or on Instagram will be posted in several weeks, sometimes they will be instant. And a lot of people can mistake the immediately after photo is the result. But it’s not immediately after what you’re actually looking at is a little bit of swelling. Just a little bit of swelling that you are looking at. Some people will post photographs, I do see that often on Instagram, Facebook, any other social media channels will be before and immediately after. And I think that the communication that they’re trying to give to the public. And I think it’s a great idea is this is how you look immediately after it doesn’t look that bad. Can you return to work? Is anybody going to notice that you’ve had it done? And so that just tells us the minute, it’s minimally invasive, there’s very minimal, minimal downtime. 

Trish 

Yeah. Even when I had my mine done, the swelling didn’t happen for a few days afterwards. So you could get this done. You know on a you know Wednesday or Thursday, and then you’ll swell up on the weekend, but then it was gone, like within a couple of days, it didn’t stick around long at all.

Linzi

The areas that I’d say is that can swell a lot and maybe bruise that would give you a little bit more, let’s say downtime, or you’d be a little bit more cautious about going out in public, some people are like that, me personally, I don’t really mind the tear trough you can you can get a little bit more bruising than than the norm like than the rest of the face. So providing that you’re a right candidate for the tear trough. Yes, that’s a great treatment in the teardrop, they might practitioner might want to use other modalities like dermal filler, or I’ve seen some people doing co2 laser radio frequency there is you can use it in conjunction with threads depending on the severity of the case how you present it could be really dark, that could be a big deficit that could be quite hollow. So you might need threads along with something else. But yeah, they work on fine lines and wrinkles around the eyes, they help strengthen the skin as well. So the area around the eye area can be quite thin. And you can see the structures of the skin and the body underneath. So underneath you see the veins and the vessels and arteries running through. So it can look a little bit discoloured. But yet again, that discoloration could be hereditary, it could be a genetic or medical disorder as well. So it’s good idea is not to have a thorough consultation with your practitioner and  they will they will recommend either the Matrix Mono threads, or they might recommend you to have another modality which is also great or a combination, but they work beautifully around the the eye area because it’s such a difficult area to treat. And it’s an area that people you know express that area a lot and you do tend to get fine lines and wrinkles there first and squint in the sun or in Marcus squinting because you’re trying to keep warm in the cold.

Trish

So as you get like one of the things that I noticed about people all the time, I don’t know what it is, but there’s something that as soon as I look at someone it’s what I call an upside down smile. And I don’t know when it happens or and I’m always really conscious of trying not to kind of be or at least you have to smile. And like I actually reckon that’s a part from the nasolabial, the nose, the lips, maybe. Yes, but apart from that one that upside down smile thing is, is amazing as well like the results of the flap. So that’s the thing as well you can just like where they would put those threads there.

Linzi

It will be mainly the lower face from anywhere from the mid cheek down to the chin. It could just be a case of it tightening the skin. No by tightening the skin. It will look like it’s lifted the skin. But I just want to say that the mono threads they do not lift there’s no lifting action, there’s no mechanical action. It’s stimulating these little cells in your body to produce more collagen in producing more collagen, or we’ll tie it in by tightening it can look like it’s lifted. So both upside down smiles that you’re referring to and I’m just checking in the mirror to see it’s kind of there but yeah, I reckon I could prevent that. By inserting the Matrix Mono threads across those areas like around your mouth, just outside the mouth, the nasolabial fold as you correctly refer to correct terminology I love it. Um, you could help strengthen the integrity of the skin and create that tightening effect though it’s not going to have an effect on the muscles so not normally if you’re thinking you know the smiles upside down. It would normally mean that it’s a muscular reason. But we’re only working on the skin here. But absolutely, I’ve seen it time and time again. And we get a lot of practitioners presenting us with their before and after photos as well of the upside down smile, and being a little bit more upright.

Trish 

Yep. Yep. I’m glad you know what I mean, though, because like, it’s traumatic. It’s like, oh, because you just naturally relax and you sort of like, you proceed together. And then you’re like, shit might decide that my mouth is pointing downwards going south. So if I consciously have to always sort of semi smile when you’re walking around anywhere, especially in this industry, because as soon as you have an extra week or so they notice that. 

Linzi

We’ve all got to be a Northpole girl. You don’t want to be a Southpole girl.

Trish

So I’m going to ask you one question. So if you were to get things done, and then a year later, get them done again, and you let them get them done, could you find that you’ve yet over time, you may be able to space that out more, or once it’s gone, it’s gone?

Linzi

Do you mean when the results have gone? 

Trish  

No, I mean, like, you know, because I think I really like this, I want to get this treatment done on a regular basis. So you go the first year, then the next year, it becomes like, Oh, I don’t quite need it yet. I’ll wait for another couple of months. Or you know, and then it goes on and on like that. So, the result is on top of each other.

Linzi

Which is like your one plus one equals three thinking. But unfortunately, that’s not the case, because we’re still ageing or ageing constantly, all the time and you cannot stop it, you can look as good as you can, and you can help improve the area. But you cannot stop ageing. So they will not stop ageing, they will improve the appearance in the integrity of the skin, they will help with fine lines that will help with wrinkles that will help with the smile lines that will help with lines that stay there even know you have resting bitchface type of life. But it’s something that doesn’t last forever, unfortunately. And it’s something that you would have to maintain regularly, regularly as in, you probably want to have it done on a yearly basis. If this is something else you probably should have mentioned, and I just hate being the bearer of bad news. But we were relying on the human body to produce collagen. And as you mature you know everybody matures at different ages. Typically, you let’s say you mature around 55 years old, because your body naturally won’t produce as much collagen. And that’s just to do with hormones, etc. in other factors of life. Let’s just put it like that. So you, you might not produce as much collagen as someone let’s say who’s in their 20s or 30s. Genetics have a big part to play as well. So let’s say if you are of Asian descent, or European, and like yourself, and you’ve got gorgeous, flawless, beautiful strong skin types in you’re going to produce more collagen than somebody like me have a Celtic background, who is the same colour of the sand in the Whitsundays.

Trish  

Yeah, right. Right. So, there’s a benefit to that.

Linzi

So, okay, one you want obviously, it’s still going to you still gonna get a result but it might just not be as good as or it might not last as long as somebody else so everybody is, everybody’s a little bit different in the in the results but all in the expectations and also age like it used to. You’re going to produce some sort of collagen but if you’re let’s say above 55, you might not the result might not last as long as somebody who’s below that. So what that means is, rather than it being a treatment that you have drawn every 12 months, it could mean that all right, you’ve got to get it done every eight months. Or it could be that you’ve got to have another modality in between that to maintain that. 

Trish

Yeah, I’ve got it because like I said, this on many podcasts, I look at photos of like, 10 years ago, before I started having anything done. And then I look at photos now, and I recommend that,  better I’ve begun to look younger now than I did then. So I’m just presuming one plus one equals three. 

Linzi

In this case, I’m presuming that the fine wine Trish. Exactly. 

Trish

Yeah. Age. Yeah. Okay. better with age, better, better.

Linzi

More, you know, there’s, there’s more things out there now than there are non surgical in there. Yeah. And there ever has been it’s, yeah, it’s accessible to everybody now, whereas 20 years ago, it would be no celebrities would have this stuff done. And never in your wildest dreams, you think that you’d be having Matrix Mono threads in your, in your face, neck, body wherever else and you make it in your big toe if you want.

Trish

Even like I said before, because you sit down, we’re talking about when in a tummy after mommies had a baby and stuff of that, like, there’s a lot of women that just will not go anywhere near having anything done to them after having a baby or any surgery or anything like that. And yeah, same goes with the fact that there’s been the point of going heavy, that’s too obvious, but this is like, there is no room. I mean, there’s maybe a little bit of swelling, it happened on the neck of downtime, but I noticed no downtime, whatsoever from this with a swelling, just like I put on a couple of kilos, I could still go out, do not put a scarf, or whatever, it wasn’t like, Oh, my God, what’s happened to me? So I love it, it is so effective and yet there’s no it’s not dramatic thing.

Linzi

If you have the body down in, let’s say, around the stomach area, there’s a lot of veins, vessels, arteries, etc, they’re, you’re probably going to bruise around that area. So you probably gonna, it’s abnormal to breathe in that area. So if somebody’s seen a bruise in that area, they would probably question why you have the bruise. You know, it’s your choice, if you want to cover up the bruise or shoulder breathe off for that approval, or go, let’s say, within a couple of weeks, a few days, depending on everybody’s different on how quickly heal on a bruise or I just breathe, I’m covered in bruises, and I have no idea where any of them came from, like now could not tell you like it’s like join the dots yet. So yeah, if everybody’s different, I breathe quite badly around by your trough. I had a bruise for about four or five days. Um, but the rest of my face was fine. My neck and everything was fine. It just marks my area that bruises. So everybody’s different depending on their healing ability. But it’s a great time and in this era to have it done, though, because everybody can wear a mask. I think it’s great. You got it. You got to think of the positives, right? 

Trish 

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

Linzi 

When you know, clinics are able to open back up or if some of the clinics are able to operate at the minute and you could always use or you have a little bit of a sniffle. If you do want to cover a bruise, or if you like me, don’t really care. You don’t mind. I don’t mind. Anybody asking me if I’ve had anything done. I’m very happy too. I’m quite happy to share.

Trish

I always wear it as a badge of honour. I know that’s bad. It’s like, Yeah, I just had this done. I feel like one of those real housewives. Oh, yeah, just got this done.

Linzi

Yeah, no, it’s good. It’s good to share because everybody’s in the same situation and a lot of time it’s not for vanity, it definitely can have a psychological effect on people in what that’s what we found in the last decade. It’s not for vanity, people have these things done. It’s a psychological reason. And if it helps that then fantastic. So only you can, that is an individual can decide that.

Trish

That’s true. And the last thing I’m going to answer is on so the last thing was the last thing that this is really the last thing, can you tell me a little bit because I know that you guys don’t just sell people a bunch of threads and send them on their way, like you guys do lots of training, I guess that’s where you come in as well, like, do you want to share that? Because I think that’s really good. Because somebody will go out and, and they think, Oh, yeah, it’s just really good to know that the clinic that you’re going to go to is someone who’s been trained properly, they give certificate when it’s all done, and they’ve looked up on the way there’s a problems, I’ve got someone that they can contact and can you just give some like that?

Linzi

We’re an Australian owned company, we’re an independent company. So all the decisions that we make, they’re all made here in Australia, which is great, because I think we’ve got the best country. And we’ve got the best set of rules and regulations for the safety of people. So our company is where we decide what we do, we are solely focused on training. So we are mainly focused on training because we want to keep people safe. So we want to keep the public safe. But we look, we want to keep the practitioners who are performing these treatments safe as well. So if we, if we do those two things, then we should have a successful business, right? Our company is only about four years old. And we’ve got a bit of living in 12 staff members. And most of them are trainers, for most of them are clinical educators who will work all over Australia, and hopefully coming into New Zealand soon. We actually come into people’s clinics who offer these cosmetic services and we do one on one training so that it consists of theory and we still cover who’s suitable and who’s not suitable? Who would be the perfect patient who are the patients that you’ve got to turn away unfortunately, in saying no to. And we also do practical training as well so we’re offering everything. Every clinic has got a dedicated educator, and they’ve also got a dedicated business development manager. So that’s kind of agile. But I do, yeah so if any lead clinician has a question or they want to query something, or they have an issue or complication, or they’ve got a good story they want to share with us, they will pick up the phone. And we will answer and it could be a call, it could be a text message, it could be an email. So there’s always somebody on the other end of the phone to help these practitioners out. We’ve got an advisory board as well. So the advisory boards are a group of doctors and nurses who have been performing these procedures. For I’d say the last, let’s say eight years, then probably in Australia got the most experience with them so if there’s anything, let’s say new that we come across, because we’re all individuals, that stuff does happen and look, I’m not gonna lie if  there’s a side effect, there’s a side effect and there’s a risk of everything. And as much as we know, we can train and do stuff in clinics, there’s always something they could get thrown at us. So we’ve got backup. So if we can’t answer the question, we will pass it on to them. And they will come in and they will intervene. And they will help with this situation as well so we’ve got support networks everywhere, all across Australia. We’ve got dedicated people and then we’ve got backup as well and that’s just something as obviously being an Australian based company, it just goes with everything else that is Australian and it’s keeping, keeping the the general public and safe, really, and offering them the best things.

Trish

Yeah that’s, I have to say that’s one of my favorite things about it is the fact that, you’re not just, you don’t just put this into the hands of people willy nilly. People that have got them and trained and are somewhere that they can go and I love those support networks because that’s where we are.

Linzi

Yeah, definitely. And we actually only train registered nurses and doctors. So even before we can get to that stage of coming into the clinic and doing training, or doing anything like theory or practical based training, we actually will ask that person for a copy of the registration through opera. Ask them for their opera registration. And then obviously, the performance training so they can become certified. etc.

Trish

So only be able to be done by a doctor or a nurse.

Linzi

Yeah, doctor or nurse. We run regular workshops for these people as well. So we’re constantly finding new information, delivering the new information, we’re always bringing out something new, as well. So as well as doing regular conferences, workshops, in-clinic training, we’ve got those support networks out there, too. So we feel like we’ve got all bases covered. And I think that’s why it’s been such a popular procedure in Australia.

Trish

Because it’s been so much fun speaking with you today.

Linzi

Definitely been such a change to the boring, mundane last year in COVID.

Trish

And you’ve made mine and I like to just give us a quick plug for your Instagram page because I’m really enjoying watching you putting your makeup on the skincare and all that stuff. 

Linzi

So you’re on your Anybodi Aesthetics page, is that right? 

Trish

Well, this will actually be on the Aesthetics Uncensored podcast page. But anyway, we’ll share it anyway.

Linzi

Yeah, right. And I’ll put it on scottie_queenof, EnVouge Skin is the Australian company that I work for. We’re the sole distributors and trainers in the Matrix Mono threads. And we’ve got our Vivacy, dermal filler and our revision skincare range as well. So we offer a few different modalities and a few different approaches. So we’ve got, we’ve got everybody covered. 

Trish

Awesome. So if you want to look it up, it’s scottie_queenof. Check it out. Thanks so much for joining us today, Linzi. It’s been an absolute delight talking to you. I always love talking to you. 

Linzi

Thank you. 

Trish

Alright, have a great day. Bye bye.

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