NSS2022 With Dr Naveen Somia

Trish and Nic are thrilled to chat with Dr Naveen Somia as they talked about the upcoming highly-awaited non surgical symposium 2022
“There’s plenty of information there to share, to learn, and to take on to improve the quality of your practice and provide the best outcome for your patients.”- Dr. Somia
The NSS is an event open to all medical practitioners, nurses and practice staff working in the aesthetic medicine industry.
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Transcript- NSS2022 With Dr Naveen Somia

Nic

Hello, and welcome to Aesthetics Uncensored with your host Trish Hammond and today, I’m joining her Nicole Montgomery. And we have the Conference Convenor and Past President of ASAPS Dr. Naveen Somia, today joining us which is very exciting to talk to us all about the Non-Surgical Symposium, which is from the 3-5 June this year at the Gold Coast Convention Centre. Naveen, please let us know what we are in store for?

Dr Somia

Thanks, Trish and thanks, Nicole for having me on this podcast. Look, I think we are very excited to have everyone back together under one roof. Because I think over the last two years we’ve not had a live face to face meeting and I think we’ve missed everyone, and we miss the joy of having people, miss the interactions, the exchange of ideas, information and basically the lack the interruption and the continuity of what we call as care and understanding of knowledge flow. So all those things, hopefully we can rectify this with this meeting. And look, we’re all pumped and excited and it’s sure going to be a very successful blockbuster meeting, as we call it, we’ve had a record number of people subscribing to attend the meeting in person, we’ve had the anatomy for injectors workshop, full, we’ve had all the exhibitors occupy all these stands so I think there is something in it for everyone. And I think the best way to look at this meeting is it’s something that you’re going to add to your current body of knowledge by listening from experts around the world, we’re going to talk and share stuff with you, you’ve learned from industry who have been busy in the background, researching and developing products and procedures over the last two years, and then there’ll be such a fabulous wealth of information knowledge for you to improve your practice. And ultimately, the entire focus of this meeting is about education, and how education translates to safety so there is plenty, and plenty more for everyone and there’s something in it for everybody so we can’t wait to host the meeting and personally welcome all of you to the Gold Coast.

Nic 

It is so exciting. I think for myself, we’ve had a lot of zooms so there’s been a lot of content thrown at us over the last couple of years. But a lot of those zooms have been run by, you know, by distributors or companies who obviously have their own product or device. Whereas having a conference like the Non Surgical Symposium, it is very education boasts a base and there are a lot of sessions that are non bias that are based on you know, a real clinicians, real experiences or case studies or whatnot, which is something that we’ve really missed in the last couple of years.

Dr Somia 

Absolutely. Look, I agree with you. In fact, one of the things, plus points of a meeting or conference is to have a chat with the speaker after the session is over. And I think that, to me, is priceless and even if you just look around to your left and to your right in the meeting, both the time we have a coffee break, you’ll always come across somebody who either will offer a different perspective on the same treatment, or an advanced version of what you think. So it’s, I find it priceless and every time we’ve been doing this meeting for quite some time, and every time I’ve either done the anatomy detector tutor job, I’ve always picked up a few things and I’m always amazed at how much of information is out there that I have missed out over the last few years and you pick up a technical tip or two from other people and one from industry, a better business practice, so on and so forth. So ultimately, you will get kind of what I say is a holistic view of the practice and ultimately little by little, it’ll just incrementally increase. And I haven’t read a book recently called Atomic Habits by the American gentleman called, James Clear. And if you haven’t heard of that book, it is worthwhile looking at this book and reading about it and walking the walk the talk about small changes that make significant impact so that’s where the word atom comes from tiny but powerful. And they talk about not doing just one major change but multiple incremental, small changes little by little into the multiple aspects of your life practice, whatever it is to see collectively them add up to be a very successful outcome. In the end, I think it’s very, in the context of running a practice. I think there’s not the atomic habits book was very useful to read so I think you pick up one little tip, two little tips, ultimately they’ll all add up to something fabulous.

Trish

You know, that’s appropriate. And you know, I love so this is the 10 year anniversary, hey, 

Dr Somia 

It is.

Trish

Oh, how exciting. I remember the phone makes me feel really old. I remember the first one, which was just the first one was like, relatively not small, but compared to smaller than the next one was huge and just kind of grew up over there. So I can’t believe it’s 10 years already and I love what you said about the fact that you just pick up a little something of someone because you know, as well consumers and people that are in the industry as well. You just think oh, they know everything but there’s always something new to learn how and there’s always something new coming along that you can learn as well. Hey,

Dr Somia  

Absolutely. And I think part of the strength of the Non-Surgical Symposium is the fact that you have key speakers from overseas and who operate in a different environment altogether, both in terms of regulatory environment and patient environment and demand as a patient, so on and so forth. So in a lot of ways, we are way ahead of a lot of countries in the world in terms of aesthetics, but I think it’s the perspective that you get from your overseas visitors is invaluable. And industry, of course, provides a whole wealth of knowledge, because I think industries are all global, and they cross pollinate or share the information that they acquire from multiple sources. And ultimately, your patient is the ultimate beneficiary and these things are what, these sessions as topics, collectively, if you just listened to everybody, you will always take on one or two interesting points and because somebody has been looking at one little aspect for 25 years and picked up a little pearl and willing to share and as has one of the Senior Surgeons told me a long, long time ago that what I tell you in 30 seconds has taken me 30 years to figure out. That’s so true. Okay, so it’s kind of what we call a niche expertise. So if you listen to somebody who’s influential and very experienced, tell you in one minute what he or she has worked out, it’s probably taken him or her a lifetime to work that or not.

Trish

And so it starts on Friday. Hey, so it starts from 8:30 on Friday and it goes through till Sunday lunchtime. Is that right? 

Dr Somia

That’s correct. 

Trish

Yeah. And is there any, and of course, on the Friday night, sorry, on the Friday is all just, well, it’s all just talks on Friday, but I was just having a look that like. 

Nic

I was actually going to ask about the panel, that you have the legacy of 10 years of the Non-Surgical panel and how you came to choose those people on that panel because some really big names on one panel can be very interesting.

Dr Somia 

But it was very appropriate to celebrate the success of 10 years of a meeting that has gone from strength to strength, and to become one of  Australasia’s Premier Non-Surgical meetings and I think this was in a way to acknowledge and publicly acknowledge the contribution of all these people who have helped become this meeting, what it is. And as we always say, we stand on the shoulders of giants, somebody has the vision, somebody has the guts to make that first call and if it was a high risk venture, it could have failed and could have flopped. But luckily, it did not so little by little people have contributed to make it what it is. So this was one way of either there have been Presidents of ASAPs, so Conveners of the meeting, run the meeting successfully and I think if you look at people, it’s just sharing their viewpoint and this was kind of a 10 years of benchmark, because if you look at the first half an hour or so of the meeting, it’s the panel discussing the legacy of 10 years of NSS, and what impact it has created in the education space of this non surgical industry and so we’re looking at the legacy of what we did, how it became a successful event, so on and so forth and it’s nice to talk about it. But at the same time, the final panel is about the future of aesthetics so at one point, we acknowledge, recognise and commemorate our past at the same time, we have our eyes firmly focused on the future. Okay, so we’ve got the panel that will be revealed shortly. But we’ve got a mixture of people from local keynotes as well as international speakers from a wide variety of industries, you know, have Plastic Surgeons, Dermatologists, Non Doctors or Doctors as well and we’re going to give their perspective. And I think looking forward to the next 10 years is going to be very critical in how this industry is going to go and we’re just asking those key key experts what the trend is going to be. So we are ready for the trend because of a track record of how we’ve managed to negotiate the last 10 years.

Nic

It’s so exciting. I actually spoke to John Holbrook on Sunday and he was telling me about the one of the cases that he’s going to be talking about when he’s speaking, I think he’s speaking on filler complications. 

Dr Somia

Yes, with one year of data.

Nic

That is going to be so insightful for so many people, people coming into the industry to obviously see, you know, what can happen. And then of course, people who are more experienced, and which is one of the things that is so understated, I think about the conferences that are held by governing bodies, like ASAPs is when we have an event that’s run by a pharmaceutical company or a distributor. Obviously, there is no talk about what goes wrong. It’s all about the ROI and all the great results and why you should buy this device or this filler, whereas you’ve got a lot in this program, not just John Holbrook about what the complications are and how to actually manage them.

Dr Somia

That’s what I think those complicated sessions are about learning from those sessions. Because you see this and each one, this is where I say you’ll have an incremental tip given by an expert who has managed a complication, you suddenly realise, like, hang on a second, I did this a few times and no wonder it didn’t work, okay, or something along those lines and then the second find next time I’ve got a complication, if you know whom to access, whom to call him not to call what to do timing and it’s a such a, like, if you’re not in the emergency space of dealing with a medical complication, either as an emergency Physician, or a trauma Surgeon, or someone who has to deal and act within a few minutes, you’re not trained to deal with any complication so all of a sudden, when you encounter a complication, related to an injectable product, it’s actually very confronting. So I think this is in one way to say, what are the first steps to do in the first, you know, golden hour, so to speak, or the first 30 seconds or 30 minutes and this is where data comes in. So ultimately, we want everything to be data driven and I think that is why the focus of John’s talk is about one year of data. So what do we learn from data? You look at the patterns of the data, so what was health? What helped, what intervention was timely, what intervention was inappropriate, and that’s in a way it’s a learning because everyone, and hopefully, if we can come through to a protocol and make it easier and user friendly for people, then I think the ultimate beneficiary is ultimately the patient. 

Nic  

Yeah, something else I noticed on your program, sorry, Trish for all these questions, which I thought was really interesting. You haven’t used people’s titles. So you’ve got a real mixture of speakers credentials, I guess, whether it’s either a specialist, plastic surgeon, or a cosmetic physician, and you’ve got GPs, there’s a huge variety of the qualifications of speakers. What when I go online to the NSS website, you haven’t actually put in, say, for instance, Dr. Naveen Somia, or is that intentional? Is that, because everybody’s the same? Or?

Dr Somia

No, I don’t think it was done intentionally. I think it just happened. It just happened that way. Because I think if you’re sharing some information, everyone knows who you are. So there’s no point in adding extra words. 

Nic

Yes. I just noticed it. And then I look as you go home, Adam Rish. You know what I mean? And then Jeremy Richardson, I’m thinking of all these different people. But without the titles, I feel like that’s interesting.

Dr Somia

I never looked at it from that perspective, Nic but thanks for highlighting that. Because I think it’s kind of actually quite nice. It’s a bit like, in a consulting room, if you have all the chairs, the same height, there’s no hierarchy there?

Nic

Well, it is. And obviously, in a traditional medical setting, you have, you know, this surgeon and then the doctor and then the nurse, and then the assistant nurse, and there is that hierarchy whereas obviously at this meeting, there’s a lot of camaraderie and we’re all there to learn.

Trish

That I was going to mention, like, I love the fact that we’ve got a nutritionist here, we’ve got dermatologists, we’ve got a GPs, got plastic surgeons, it’s a whole gamut of people from the industry so it’s not just you know, like, we’re not gonna say, Okay, we’re only going to get, you know, plastic surgeon, we’re only going to get, you know, derma too so it’s a nice little combo. So whatever anybody wants to learn about, like, you can learn the skin, changes of menopause, right through to the immunogenicity to Botox, whatever that even means. But there’s a nice little variety, and it looks pretty jam packed and I know that for myself, when you want to watch one, like, I can see it’s going to happen again this year, where you’re like, oh, quick, I gotta hurry up getting to the next one so everyone’s just running around trying to get to the ones they want, because there’s such a variety of people to choose from.

Dr Somia 

Look, I think you’re right, Trish, I think it’s as if we were just fortunate that people who want to participate and talk, we’re happy to share these talks. So, you know, we said super productive and said, like, look, please send out your best talks. And this is kind of how we picked and chose. And I think if we looked at how they’ve been structured, they’ve all been structured with real people’s expertise, real people’s experience into this. So each of those guys want to talk about topics that they’re very passionate about, and secondly, they’re going to talk about something they’ve got an intense amount of expertise in so I think the ultimate beneficiaries, the persons who listen to this and there’s one particular talk that is in the threads section where Lennert Minelli is going to talk about anatomy, and Lennert is the Research Fellow with Dr. Bryan Mendelson, and has been working on cutting edge anatomy research for the last two years and as a part of his PhD and, and this is what his research as widely accepted in prestigious journals and been hailed as something landmark anatomically so to get someone like Lennert to share this at the NSS, which he hasn’t presented before, is kind of, I find it as a very useful thing to understand because ultimately, if this meeting is about facial aesthetics, which it is, to a large part, it’s about the skin, the fat, the typing the energy devices, the fundamental basis of facial aesthetics is facial anatomy, whether you use it for a surgical purpose or non surgical purpose, your anatomy has to be super strong, because that is what the basis of ageing is all about. So I think facial aesthetics and facials are primarily defined by facial anatomy and the changes that are conventional anatomy. Now with the anatomy for injectors course, that’s happening on Monday, the sixth of June, in Brisbane, the focus will be on using understanding facial anatomy for the purposes of non surgical interventions. So this year, we have, in addition to the traditional anatomy, for injectors, we have also have anatomies, for anatomy for how to see how your treads are going to work on facial soft tissues, we’re going to see how you use the ultrasound to see where the fillers can go and visualise that and you also look at having subtleties of where the fillers can be placed in, say, in the nose to see if you can get a better outcome so these are all kind of add ons that ultimately add value for one day of learning.

Trish 

And, you know, one thing I noticed is the fact that and this really appeals to me, because we’re all still coming off the back of you know, COVID and it’s we’re still not over it but the fact that the whole, everything is actually happening in the one venue like for the safety of the patrons like I actually really like that I think it’s really good because we’re all in the one space and that’s where everything’s happening apart from Brisbane, of course on the Monday but yeah.

Dr Somia  

Then you get to have some fresh air on the journey between Gold Coast and Brisbane so it can, that’s good. But I think that, like all these things, the TPHE team led by Gina have been attentive to every single detail both in terms of crowd control, crowd managing infection, control, safe distancing and even when we looked at running this meeting last year, which we couldn’t run, the protocols and things in place was just phenomenal. It was almost like an American presidential visit and so I think that the attention to detail that we rely on the production house to provide us is an extra level of safety. It is very much like how you can blindly jump into court and quantify things and assume that all the safety boxes have been ticked and you’re going to be guaranteed you’re going to land safely. That’s the kind of comfort zone that TPHE has provided us with over the last many years and this year is no different.

Trish

If we come through like it’s so funny, because we come to expect that nowadays and every year. It should be genuine the crew at the production house events, they just always just go that one step more so I’m really looking forward to what’s going to be this year because every year I get blown away, even though I was blown away the year before.

Nic

Naveen, please tell us about the gala dinner.

 

Dr Somia

Oh, the gala dinner has been oversubscribed so there’s lots of people coming at the gala dinner and it is going to be a very, very interesting dinner with lots of splashes of colour, lots of splashes of costumes, and lots of fun and frivolity.

Trish 

Do we dress like that? I mean, I know we dress up but it’s not fancy dress or anything, is it? 

Dr Somia

That’s not a fancy dress. 

Trish 

Oh, that’s good. That’s good. Good. Just normal. 

Dr Somia

Yeah, come on, put your best foot forward and it’ll be a lot of fun. Yeah, just look at the welcome reception and the gala dinner. We’ve had lots of a subscribe number of people but it’d be that, this is the power of being together. And I think that’s something that all of us have craved for the last two years and it’s we took it for granted and we didn’t realise how important was until COVID hit us and then we had to deal with the COVID restrictions and suddenly realise this is a very important part to be missing. 

Trish 

Yeah, that’s so true.

Dr Somia

That human connection that the human life and spirit thrives on was completely taken away from us and it became a meaningless existence, so to speak, you know what I mean?

Trish  

With all of the talks and everything that’s happening on the day, or sorry, on the two and a half days, actually, I love that you put the last session on Sunday as the great debate,  like, what is the future of aesthetics? I love that, because I reckon that’s going to actually keep because Sunday is only a half day so a lot of people don’t attend on the Sunday, I guess, I think that’s a way to keep a lot of people there because as soon as I saw that, I think, oh, I want to listen to that. But also, I was going to ask you, is there anything being recorded for people to watch later at all?

Dr Somia

It has been recorded, and there are people who have signed up for the on demand option. In other words, the event is not going to be streamed live, because having a virtual meeting as a hybrid meeting was not not technically feasible. But there is a recording, which is going to be related to the guys who have signed up for on demand viewing later.

Trish  

Oh, that’s great. So if someone was to attend the physical event, and they wanted to see two sessions, they’d be able to watch the session they missed out on on a catch up later?

Dr Somia  

If they may be able to, I don’t know the technical details best. If you have a chat with Gina, she’ll be able to tell you how to work with them and also that there are people who, and this is going to be the feature of meetings in the future, because there will be a group of people who may not feel like attending a meeting for various reasons but would like to access the content of the meeting. Trying to run a virtual meeting at the same time for both an audience which is live as well as remote is going to be just a technical challenge. This may be a better option where you do an on demand option post meeting, where you’re not deprived of the content, but you missed that little feel of being in there at the moment.

Trish 

Yeah, but I’m really excited. I’ve got two weeks to lose weight because every time one of these starts I’m like, I’ll go lose weight. Okay, can I ask you? Are there any tickets left? For anyone who hasn’t booked their tickets already, are there any tickets left now?

Dr Somia  

There are tickets left for the meeting and the NSS tickets are still open. People should attend this meeting if you haven’t booked because it’s kind of a massive bolus dose of information. And not just information but also current up-to-date and information about the trends, what’s happening overseas as well as industry trends, which I think you’ll take home a lot more from this meeting than any of the previous meetings you’ve been to just just because of two years of r&d being showcased and I’m actually quite keen to go around the industry and have a chat to people in industry to see what what new products and I love going around industry boots, the NSS because you learn a lot more by talking to people.

Nic

Will you visit our booth? We’re excited. We’ve got a booth.

Dr Somia 

I will come and say hello to you.

Trish 

Because we’ve got a photo booth in our booth, which is really exciting- a booth with a photo booth in it.

Dr Somia 

So you get to take photos. 

Trish 

Exactly, exactly. It’s very nice. Now we’re looking forward to it. I’m really excited to be attending this event.

Dr Somia 

Yeah, no. And hopefully you know, the weather is good and it’ll make everyone feel nice and warm because in Sydney today is raining and miserable. 

Nic

So it’s like freezing. 

Trish

Come to Queensland we’ll keep you warm plus flood.

Dr Somia  

No, I think hopefully that’s behind your eyes.

Trish

Yeah, another for Catholics, but I reckon it’s gonna be great weather. I think it’s gonna be fantastic. Anything else from you, Nicole?

Nic  

I’m just super excited. It’s been two years. So yes. Oh my gosh, the most exciting of them we’ve had for so long since pre COVID so I absolutely can’t wait. I can’t wait to meet new people, can’t wait to see people we haven’t seen forever in a day and have lots of fun and it’s kind of like you’ve left us excited. You’ve given us just enough Naveen to think it’s gonna be one of those spectacular production house events, but then at the same time, you haven’t given away anything.

Dr Somia    

Oh, that’s that, that’s very good.

Nic    

You’re very good, you could have been a politician on the weekend and I’d be voting for you.

Dr Somia    

That’s fine. I’ll just think I’ve got another 10 hours to change my mind to run for elections tomorrow. Fascinating look, I think it looks in all honesty, I mean, this meeting is I, we love running this meeting, because it’s a very exciting meeting because I think it keeps us all current and keeps us all grounded. Yeah. And that’s the first thing because you don’t know who’s got niche expertise and A, B, and C, a niche expertise comes from all angles so we keep our eyes, ears and arms open and good thought comes to us from all angles, and all directions. And then you look at speakers and you look at people who have been attending the meeting, five years ago, as participants and ex keynotes they become key opinion leaders they become, now they’re helping run a master class, they come on the stage to this beautiful to see that progression of talent and the confidence that this this industry gives people and the NSS becomes a perfect platform for you to just spread your wings and grow in more ways than one.

Trish

And I love that it’s Queensland because it’s not in Sydney, you know, I mean, it’s up north and gets a few more people that want to go, you know, it’s actually quite easy to get to Gold Coast as well.

Dr Somia 

The Gold Coast and I think the weather is in your favour, because if you look at Southern states, this time of the year, it’s generally either wet or cold, or sometimes both. And escaping to the Gold Coast at this time was just therapeutic in itself. I remember distinctly a few years ago, when we had the meeting in the Gold Coast, we had horrible weather in Sydney for over a week, it was freezing cold and it was such a relief to be out for about four or five days in the Gold Coast, just enjoying the warm weather.

Trish

Yeah, that’s why I live close by.

Nic

And you’ve also got in before the end of the financial year, which means that a lot of the exhibitors hopefully get some really great leads and close some sales with that sense of urgency before the end of tax time.

Dr Somia 

No, it’s actually we hope that everyone benefits from this meeting and I think enough people will look at I think there’s a significant amount of confidence coming back in the market because of how the industry is growing. The real estate market is not looking to crash, what I was told at this stage is because there’s a whole heap of things happening, but I think the consumer market is looking decent.

Trish  

Yep, we want to spend our money, we just need to find out what we want to do to make ourselves look good and we want to do it safely as well.

Dr Somia 

And that’s kind of if there’s anything that the legacy of 10 years of NSS has done, it’s certainly ensured that it’s safer in a better looking place. Yeah, the safety profile has increased, if you ever look at the safety over the last 10 years, has incrementally increased little by little, you know, look at fillers, anatomy, complications, going back to anatomy, learning what to do what not to do, now, all of a sudden, that people are injecting injecting in a much better, safer and more user friendly, patient friendly manner, to give you results that are not only natural, safer, but long lasting,

Nic

And more eager to share information and be transparent, that feeling sort of just disperses away. 

Trish

When you look good and show everyone how they did it. Absolutely.

Dr Somia 

And I think the industry is fairly large and I think there is so much work there for everybody. There’s no reason to be restrictive about sharing or otherwise.

Trish

That’s so true. That’s so true. Thank you so much for taking the time. 

Dr Somia 

That’s a pleasure.

Nic

We cannot thank you enough on a Friday afternoon in this cold dreary weather with very, very grateful and we can’t wait to see the week after next. And if anybody has not got their ticket, well of course they need to hurry up and get online and the website is nonsurgical.org.au where you can register or view the program. If you’re not there, well, you’re going to be missing out and have FOMO so we can’t wait to see Naveen in our beautiful frocks looking skinny.

Dr Somia 

Thank you. Thank you, Trish. Thank you, Nicole. Thanks for having me. And I think it’s I look forward to seeing you both at the NSS and thanks for hosting this program and hopefully your listeners will get something out of this podcast and more from the meeting when they attend. Thank you.

Trish

Thank you so much.

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